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Author:  paulrace [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Bari Mouthpiece question

A reader writes:

I am getting a Parisian Ambassador F.E. Olds Baritone sax (Ebay) no mouthpiece included. I last played on a semi regular basis back in College Jazz band in 1989, and that was on Tenor. Never played a Bari. I would appreciate some advice on a mouthpiece that would marry nice to this Bari sax I'm getting. (I am hoping that the horn was made by Beaugnier because my beloved tenor is made by them) I use a Jazz Rouseau something or other on the tenor. I play loud with any mouthpiece. I would like a mouthpiece that would best bring out the sound the horn wants, if that makes any sense? In other words, I would like to adjust to the horn and not make the horn adjust to me. Any advice or response is appreciated. I intend on creating and recording some sax remakes and original stuff using Soprano,Alto,Tenor, and the Bari in a one man sax section type of way. I am guessing that I want the four of me to sound like Harvey Pittel's group rather than a Sanborn,Grover Washington,Koz
and Gato. group. So maybe I'm also asking about mouthpieces for all four of those saxes to sound good together.
Thanks, sorry so long winded here

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Thanks for getting in touch. I have to apologize for not having a single good answer for you. Springfield Ohio isn't any better place to try out multiple Bari sax mouthpieces than Jordan MN.

If you like the Rouseau on your tenor, that might be the way to go on your bari (if you can track one down). I'd check the tip openings, etc., try to get the Bari equivalent.

In the meantime, if you can find a used Selmer C* or even a starter mouthpiece like the Yamaha 5C for not too much money, I think it would help you figure out what you need in the long run. I like starting with a good "multipurpose" mouthpiece on a horn so I can get a feel for it before I decide on an expensive one that might add more color or edge than I actually want. But the truth is, 95% of the places I play, it doesn't make that much difference. And I never worry about trying to make my alto sound like my tenor or vice versa.

If I was working full time, I'm sure I'd be more picky eventually.

Morgan mouthpieces are made in my city, so I could forward your question to their experts if you'd like.

Best of luck - Paul

Author:  paulrace [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bari Mouthpiece question

The reader replied:

I stopped believing in coincidences a long time ago, but......I just got what probably is an replica Morgan Excalibur tenor sax mouthpiece today...bought on Ebay..hmmm maybe i can attach to save explanation time...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221797351800?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Any idea who would have made it? I tried it out and to me it sounds like a decent school band type mouthpiece. It does sound better on my tenor than my Link super tone 7....great sounding lows with the Link...not impressed with my higher notes....could be playing with a Rico 2 1/2 has some issue...I play loud and sometimes it seems my reed seems to pinch off notes and it makes me want to snap the reed off because of how annoying that is.....I have been playing a Rico ( I think) that is all black, the kind you don't have to wet, on the soprano and like that. blah blah blah....sorry again.to sum up..........Who do you think makes that Morgan knock off I paid wayyyyy too much for....I don't even know why I bid on it by the way. I thought as much....at least I got a nice Berg ligature out of it.

Regarding the switch from soprano to tenor...that is exactly what happens to me too, for the same reason I'm sure.
thanks for the great advice.
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I hate to agree with you, but this is not a Morgan. Don't know who made it, but several Chinese importers have recently got into the business of making knockoff mouthpieces. At least this one didn't have the fake brand name imprinted, which some of them do.

The seller knew it wasn't a Morgan but he advertised it the way he did to get you to spend way more than it was worth. Sorry. :-(

If you play tenor more than three hours a week, you should probably be on a #3 or 3 1/2 reed. If you play sop more than three hours a week, I'd consider at least a three. 2.5 is for people like me who don't play enough to REALLY keep their lip in shape, especially for the smaller horns.

Plus, if I'm playing Sop a lot and pick up my Tenor, I have to go to a 3 or 3.5 on the tenor, even if I'm using a 2.5 on the sop, because I have to apply so much more pressure on the sop to get a good sound, that I tend to overblow my tenor when I change over. Probably just me.

Best of luck - Paul

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