Music Performance, Worship Leading, Saxophones, Things to Think About, More

Visit our Sites
Jump to the School of the Rock Home Page CreekDontRise.com Home Page Jump to our articles about music
Visit our Classic Train Songs Page View articles and other resources supporting independent Christian musicians.
Click to visit Paul's Music Page

It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:11 pm


Note: Because we manage multiple music sites with some overlapping content, we have divided the discussion topics between the sites' discussion forums, depending on which site has the greater emphasis on a topic.

The discussion forums on this page relate to such topics as:

  • Vintage Saxophones
  • Contemporary Christian Music
  • Christian Living
  • Worship Leading
  • Bible Interpretation

Other Music topics, including acoustic instruments, music performance, music careers, songwriting, and train songs are discussed on the CreekDontRise.com discussion forum.

To join the discussions on this page, please use the SchoolOfTheRock.com forum signup page.
To visit the discussion forums on the CreekDontRise.com page, please click here.
To join the discussions on the CreekDontRise.com page, please use the CreekDontrise.com forum signup page.
Our Momma Don't 'Low newsletter includes music topics from all of our music web pages. Click here for more information.
To contact Paul offline, please use our SchoolOfTheRock.com contact page.

However you get in touch, we'll be very glad to hear from you - Paul Click to see Paul's music home page Click to contact Paul through this page. Click to see Paul's music page on Facebook Click to sign up for this discussion forum. Click to hear Paul's music on SoundCloud. Click to see Paul's music blog page Click to learn about our Momma Don't Low Newsletter. Click to see Paul's YouTube Channel. Click to see Paul's Twitter Page

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Bari Mouthpiece question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:28 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 15, 2014 6:03 pm
Posts: 214
A reader writes:

I am getting a Parisian Ambassador F.E. Olds Baritone sax (Ebay) no mouthpiece included. I last played on a semi regular basis back in College Jazz band in 1989, and that was on Tenor. Never played a Bari. I would appreciate some advice on a mouthpiece that would marry nice to this Bari sax I'm getting. (I am hoping that the horn was made by Beaugnier because my beloved tenor is made by them) I use a Jazz Rouseau something or other on the tenor. I play loud with any mouthpiece. I would like a mouthpiece that would best bring out the sound the horn wants, if that makes any sense? In other words, I would like to adjust to the horn and not make the horn adjust to me. Any advice or response is appreciated. I intend on creating and recording some sax remakes and original stuff using Soprano,Alto,Tenor, and the Bari in a one man sax section type of way. I am guessing that I want the four of me to sound like Harvey Pittel's group rather than a Sanborn,Grover Washington,Koz
and Gato. group. So maybe I'm also asking about mouthpieces for all four of those saxes to sound good together.
Thanks, sorry so long winded here

---------------------------------------------

Thanks for getting in touch. I have to apologize for not having a single good answer for you. Springfield Ohio isn't any better place to try out multiple Bari sax mouthpieces than Jordan MN.

If you like the Rouseau on your tenor, that might be the way to go on your bari (if you can track one down). I'd check the tip openings, etc., try to get the Bari equivalent.

In the meantime, if you can find a used Selmer C* or even a starter mouthpiece like the Yamaha 5C for not too much money, I think it would help you figure out what you need in the long run. I like starting with a good "multipurpose" mouthpiece on a horn so I can get a feel for it before I decide on an expensive one that might add more color or edge than I actually want. But the truth is, 95% of the places I play, it doesn't make that much difference. And I never worry about trying to make my alto sound like my tenor or vice versa.

If I was working full time, I'm sure I'd be more picky eventually.

Morgan mouthpieces are made in my city, so I could forward your question to their experts if you'd like.

Best of luck - Paul


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:37 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 15, 2014 6:03 pm
Posts: 214
The reader replied:

I stopped believing in coincidences a long time ago, but......I just got what probably is an replica Morgan Excalibur tenor sax mouthpiece today...bought on Ebay..hmmm maybe i can attach to save explanation time...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221797351800?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Any idea who would have made it? I tried it out and to me it sounds like a decent school band type mouthpiece. It does sound better on my tenor than my Link super tone 7....great sounding lows with the Link...not impressed with my higher notes....could be playing with a Rico 2 1/2 has some issue...I play loud and sometimes it seems my reed seems to pinch off notes and it makes me want to snap the reed off because of how annoying that is.....I have been playing a Rico ( I think) that is all black, the kind you don't have to wet, on the soprano and like that. blah blah blah....sorry again.to sum up..........Who do you think makes that Morgan knock off I paid wayyyyy too much for....I don't even know why I bid on it by the way. I thought as much....at least I got a nice Berg ligature out of it.

Regarding the switch from soprano to tenor...that is exactly what happens to me too, for the same reason I'm sure.
thanks for the great advice.
------------Our Reply------Please log in and add your own----------------------

I hate to agree with you, but this is not a Morgan. Don't know who made it, but several Chinese importers have recently got into the business of making knockoff mouthpieces. At least this one didn't have the fake brand name imprinted, which some of them do.

The seller knew it wasn't a Morgan but he advertised it the way he did to get you to spend way more than it was worth. Sorry. :-(

If you play tenor more than three hours a week, you should probably be on a #3 or 3 1/2 reed. If you play sop more than three hours a week, I'd consider at least a three. 2.5 is for people like me who don't play enough to REALLY keep their lip in shape, especially for the smaller horns.

Plus, if I'm playing Sop a lot and pick up my Tenor, I have to go to a 3 or 3.5 on the tenor, even if I'm using a 2.5 on the sop, because I have to apply so much more pressure on the sop to get a good sound, that I tend to overblow my tenor when I change over. Probably just me.

Best of luck - Paul

Quoting Andrew Babcock <drewmaxon@yahoo.com>:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron


To join the discussions on this page, please use the SchoolOfTheRock.com forum signup page.

To contact Paul offline, please use our SchoolOfTheRock.com contact page.

Paul Race playing his Longneck guitar. Click to go to Paul's music home page.A Note from Paul: Whatever else you get out of our pages, I hope you have a blessed day and figure out how to be a blessing to those around you as well.

And please stay in touch!

    - Paul Race Click to see Paul's music home page Click to contact Paul through this page. Click to see Paul's music page on Facebook Click to sign up for this discussion forum. Click to hear Paul's music on SoundCloud. Click to see Paul's music blog page Click to learn about our Momma Don't Low Newsletter. Click to see Paul's YouTube Channel. Click to see Paul's Twitter Page



All material, illustrations, and content of this web site is copyrighted © 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006,
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 by Paul D. Race. All rights reserved.




Musician's Friend Stupid Deal of the Day



Visit related pages and affiliated sites:
- Music -
Heartland-inspired music, history, and acoustic instrument tips.
Best-loved railroad songs and the stories behind them.
School Of the Rock Discussion Forums:  Saxophones, Christian Music, Worship, Things to Think About, and More. Creek Don't Rise Discussion Groups, Acoustic Instruments, Careers, Songwriting, Performance, More The Independent Christian Musician. Check out our article on finding good used guitars.
Carols of many countries, including music, lyrics, and the story behind the songs. X and Y-generation Christians take Contemporary Christian music, including worship, for granted, but the first generation of Contemporary Christian musicians faced strong, and often bitter resistance. Different kinds of music call for different kinds of banjos.  Just trying to steer you in the right direction. New, used, or vintage - tips for whatever your needs and preferences. Wax recordings from the early 1900s, mostly collected by George Nelson.  Download them all for a 'period' album. Explains the various kinds of acoustic guitar and what to look for in each.
Look to Riverboat Music buyers' guide for descriptions of musical instruments by people who play musical instruments. Learn 5-string banjo at your own speed, with many examples and user-friendly explanations. Explains the various kinds of banjos and what each is good for. Learn more about our newsletter for roots-based and acoustic music. Folks with Bb or Eb instruments can contribute to worship services, but the WAY they do depends on the way the worship leader approaches the music. A page devoted to some of Paul's own music endeavors.
With a few tools and an hour or two of work, you can make your guitar, banjo, or mandolin much more responsive.  Instruments with movable bridges can have better-than-new intonation as well. Musings about music-related subjects on SchoolOfTheRock.com Explains why Bluegrass pickers look for certain features. Contact Paul through this site's Contact page. Check out Paul's music page on Facebook. Jump to the School of the Rock Home Page



Click to trains that commemorate your team!

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group