Music Performance, Worship Leading, Saxophones, Things to Think About, More

Visit our Sites
Jump to the School of the Rock Home Page CreekDontRise.com Home Page Jump to our articles about music
Visit our Classic Train Songs Page View articles and other resources supporting independent Christian musicians.
Click to visit Paul's Music Page

It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:15 am


Note: Because we manage multiple music sites with some overlapping content, we have divided the discussion topics between the sites' discussion forums, depending on which site has the greater emphasis on a topic.

The discussion forums on this page relate to such topics as:

  • Vintage Saxophones
  • Contemporary Christian Music
  • Christian Living
  • Worship Leading
  • Bible Interpretation

Other Music topics, including acoustic instruments, music performance, music careers, songwriting, and train songs are discussed on the CreekDontRise.com discussion forum.

To join the discussions on this page, please use the SchoolOfTheRock.com forum signup page.
To visit the discussion forums on the CreekDontRise.com page, please click here.
To join the discussions on the CreekDontRise.com page, please use the CreekDontrise.com forum signup page.
Our Momma Don't 'Low newsletter includes music topics from all of our music web pages. Click here for more information.
To contact Paul offline, please use our SchoolOfTheRock.com contact page.

However you get in touch, we'll be very glad to hear from you - Paul Click to see Paul's music home page Click to contact Paul through this page. Click to see Paul's music page on Facebook Click to sign up for this discussion forum. Click to hear Paul's music on SoundCloud. Click to see Paul's music blog page Click to learn about our Momma Don't Low Newsletter. Click to see Paul's YouTube Channel. Click to see Paul's Twitter Page

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:09 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 15, 2014 6:03 pm
Posts: 214
A reader writes:

I received a STENCIL SAX - It's labeled BEAUFORT AMERICAN; CHICAGO,USA. It appears to be silver plated. It has a SERIAL # 39976 on it and it looks like an Eb is stamped on it below the thumb hook.

I didn't (and still don't) know anything about it except that it is old. I took it to music store to have it overhauled & new pads,(back in 1996). I was going to leave my son play in it in the high school band.

When I picked it up, I was told that "kind of Sax" really belong in New Orleans because it's sound. Well, as any good mother would do, I brought my son a newer sax and packed the STENCIL SAX away, thinking that if it belonged in New Orleans, it really should go to a professional SAX PLAYER.

I still haven't made it to New Orleans. I LOVE SAX MUSIC and if it is of any value, I would like a professional to play it.

I really would appreciate ANY INFORMATION AS TO HOW TO CONFIRM the BRAND. The information that I found is that:
BUESCHER (might of Manufactured it about 1918-1919). If so, the SERIAL # matches up to that time frame. The thing that baffles me is "CHICAGO" that engraved on the front of it. I can't find any history on BUESCHER being in Chicago, only Elkhart, Indiana.
Thanks for any help.

----------------------------------------------------
Stencils were often made for big music store chains, yours may have been made for a chain based in Chicago. But it was probably made in Elkhart. If you send me clear photos of the thing from every angle, especially showing me the bottom curve and the keys all the way around the top half of the horn, I may be able to tell you more, including whether it's probably a Buescher.

If you're son's still playing, chances are it has a better sound than whatever you bought him and just needs a better mouthpiece to really sound nice. The keys are laid out a little differently but most people make the adjustment easily.

The serial #s on stencils are usually set according to the music store's whim so aren't always helpful.

Best of luck

Paul Race
SchoolOfTheRock


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:11 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 15, 2014 6:03 pm
Posts: 214
The reader sent back photos, including this one.

Attachment:
DSCN5858.JPG
DSCN5858.JPG [ 116.95 KiB | Viewed 12170 times ]






------------------------------------
It's a Martin. You can tell by the beveled sound holes.
From other photos you sent, I would guess that it is late 1920s Handcraft. From 1929 to 1930, the left pinky keys on the Martins were round buttons. In 1930, they got away from the buttons, but VERY FEW stencils were made after 1930.

The earliest Handcrafts had very short G# keys. Yours is longer, which is why I suggest the 1920s rather an the teens.

Hope this helps.

- Paul


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 15 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron


To join the discussions on this page, please use the SchoolOfTheRock.com forum signup page.

To contact Paul offline, please use our SchoolOfTheRock.com contact page.

Paul Race playing his Longneck guitar. Click to go to Paul's music home page.A Note from Paul: Whatever else you get out of our pages, I hope you have a blessed day and figure out how to be a blessing to those around you as well.

And please stay in touch!

    - Paul Race Click to see Paul's music home page Click to contact Paul through this page. Click to see Paul's music page on Facebook Click to sign up for this discussion forum. Click to hear Paul's music on SoundCloud. Click to see Paul's music blog page Click to learn about our Momma Don't Low Newsletter. Click to see Paul's YouTube Channel. Click to see Paul's Twitter Page



All material, illustrations, and content of this web site is copyrighted © 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006,
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 by Paul D. Race. All rights reserved.




Musician's Friend Stupid Deal of the Day



Visit related pages and affiliated sites:
- Music -
Heartland-inspired music, history, and acoustic instrument tips.
Best-loved railroad songs and the stories behind them.
School Of the Rock Discussion Forums:  Saxophones, Christian Music, Worship, Things to Think About, and More. Creek Don't Rise Discussion Groups, Acoustic Instruments, Careers, Songwriting, Performance, More The Independent Christian Musician. Check out our article on finding good used guitars.
Carols of many countries, including music, lyrics, and the story behind the songs. X and Y-generation Christians take Contemporary Christian music, including worship, for granted, but the first generation of Contemporary Christian musicians faced strong, and often bitter resistance. Different kinds of music call for different kinds of banjos.  Just trying to steer you in the right direction. New, used, or vintage - tips for whatever your needs and preferences. Wax recordings from the early 1900s, mostly collected by George Nelson.  Download them all for a 'period' album. Explains the various kinds of acoustic guitar and what to look for in each.
Look to Riverboat Music buyers' guide for descriptions of musical instruments by people who play musical instruments. Learn 5-string banjo at your own speed, with many examples and user-friendly explanations. Explains the various kinds of banjos and what each is good for. Learn more about our newsletter for roots-based and acoustic music. Folks with Bb or Eb instruments can contribute to worship services, but the WAY they do depends on the way the worship leader approaches the music. A page devoted to some of Paul's own music endeavors.
With a few tools and an hour or two of work, you can make your guitar, banjo, or mandolin much more responsive.  Instruments with movable bridges can have better-than-new intonation as well. Musings about music-related subjects on SchoolOfTheRock.com Explains why Bluegrass pickers look for certain features. Contact Paul through this site's Contact page. Check out Paul's music page on Facebook. Jump to the School of the Rock Home Page



Click to trains that commemorate your team!

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group